After I first wrote about boomer shooters final yr on Steam Deck and in addition on Change, except for New Blood and Nightdive, the most typical title was Andrew Hulshult who has finished some wonderful music through the years. He not too long ago was concerned with the DOOM + DOOM II re-release that included his IDKFA soundtrack with new music for DOOM II, and having wished to interview him for some time now, I lastly had an opportunity to talk with him on name for a couple of hours to debate recreation soundtracks, composition, bands he likes, guitar strings, pickups, chilly brew espresso, his first movie soundtrack, video games he’s enjoying, and much more. This interview was finished on video name after which it was transcribed and edited for brevity. Similar to my interview with Dave Oshry from New Blood, this one was extra informal than standard, and that is possible the longest interview on TouchArcade so strap in and seize a chilly brew.
TouchArcade (TA): So for these unaware, inform us just a little bit about your self and what you do.
Andrew Hulshult (AH): Yeah, my title’s Andrew Hulshult. I’m a composer and sound designer for primarily video video games, however I’m beginning to transfer over into movie as nicely. I like to only write music on my own typically when it’s not for a recreation or movie. However that’s primarily what I do. I work within the recreation and movie trade doing sound design, soundtracks, and typically voice performing.
TA: How did you find yourself engaged on the canceled Duke Nukem undertaking and in addition Rise of the Triad 2013?
AH: Duke Nukem 3D Reloaded was really simply form of like, I believe that was 2010. That’s, I’m reaching again right here just a little bit. So I believe Frederik on the time, Frederik Schreiber, the man who runs 3D Realms now, or I believe he nonetheless does, mainly he was remaking maps in the course of Unreal Engine 3 of like a few of the unique Duke 3D maps and posting them on Gearbox boards, which I believe certainly one of them that obtained a number of hits was like all the 3D renders of like Hollywood Holocaust, which is like E1M1 for Duke 3D. That caught my consideration as nicely. I used to be like, wow, that appears actually neat. You realize, like I reached out on the boards, I used to be like, hey, do you want any music? Possibly this could be enjoyable. Like, I actually preferred Duke 3D again within the day. And he mentioned, yeah, certain. You realize, like if you wish to remake a few of the stuff and hand it off to me.
So I simply did a few of that. I simply had gear laying round and I wished to form of learn to do that anyway. So I simply dove in head first and began form of remaking a few of the outdated Duke 3D tracks. That form of spawned into, you recognize, not so much, not so much was finished in Duke 3D Reloaded. It was identical to, you recognize, like some odds and ends stuff. Someway that was Apogee, Terry Nagy, head looking us and saying, hey, I’ve an IP that I’d actually such as you to work on referred to as Rise of the Triad should you guys wish to give it a strive. And he had an investor with him on the time who was named Dave Oshry And this was a really very long time in the past. And it’s loopy. Like all these individuals now are like, you recognize, on the, we had been all on the forefront of just like the retro FPS revival stuff.
However mainly after Duke 3D Reloaded, yeah, Apogee got here, mentioned, hey, we’re . And Fred mentioned sure on our facet. And we began making Rise of the Triad 2013.
TA: It was humorous you talked about Dave Oshry as a result of after I lastly obtained an interview with him, I believe it was simpler for me to satisfy Iron Maiden than get that interview, however after getting that finished, I had New Blood coated. I not too long ago additionally interviewed Nightdive about The Factor, however I wanted to finish the trifecta for boomer shooters: Andrew Hulshult. Now that’s lastly taking place.
We each chuckle.
TA: I bear in mind in a previous interview you probably did, you talked about how once you had been doing the 3D realm stuff, you weren’t conscious of how a lot you had been in demand within the trade. So when that door closed, immediately you had like a, like 1000’s of alternatives and stuff like that. However, and clearly you’ve gone on to do a few of like some large titles since then. Clearly Doom Everlasting DLC is the one which lots of people take into consideration you. For me, it’s like different titles like Nightmare Reaper and Nightfall and stuff like that. I wish to understand how you’ve modified as a musician and as an expert from again then to now.
AH: Oh, that’s an awesome query. Man, beginning off within the trade with, you recognize, doing the entire stuff with Interceptor, like the place we had been, what we had been simply speaking about, it was a totally contemporary expertise as a musician. So that you don’t know what you’re entering into. After which a number of occasions you’re like, I don’t even know what I ought to be getting paid, you recognize, like you’ve an thought, however you’re not, you don’t know. And so like wading by way of these waters is attention-grabbing and in addition harmful territory. However the stuff that I’ve discovered has been all from, you recognize, tripping on agreements as you go ahead. You signal an settlement, you go for it, you make the cash, and on the again finish you’re both like, this didn’t actually work out, otherwise you’re like, hey, this labored out, we have to ensure that we do that once more, you recognize.
It’s studying your entire time. As a result of that is the factor that I really feel like musicians get hung up on so much, which is, you recognize, they simply, they wish to make actually, actually superior, stunning artwork for video games. And like, there’s completely nothing mistaken with that. You must, that ought to be the core precept that you just do. However you need to just be sure you receives a commission so that you could proceed to do it. As a result of in any other case you burn your self out and also you don’t wish to work within the trade anymore. And that, to return to what you had been speaking about with, I didn’t understand how a lot, like how in demand I used to be. I used to be proper at that time. I used to be about to stroll away from all the things proper after the entire stuff with 3D Realms. I used to be finished with video games. I used to be like, you recognize what, like there’s not a number of avenues right here and I’m simply getting extra bitter as time goes on. And the final handful of issues I’ve labored on have simply bombed so why am I placing all this effort into this?
I ought to attempt to do one thing else. And I didn’t understand till I stepped out from 3D Realms how many individuals wished to rent me. And like, it’s a type of bizarre issues the place like, I’m certain you’ll be able to in all probability relate. When you’ve a job, like a day job, should you’ve ever simply held like a easy, easy day job, you will get sucked into that whole cycle of that job and nothing else issues round.
So an instance of this could be, I labored for a music retailer for about 15 years, okay. I used to be doing nicely for them. They wished to present me my very own shops. I used to be engaged on administration. And the cycle that comes with that the place you get so wrapped up within the enterprise of that makes you lose focus of plenty of different issues in life. And that’s form of what occurred to me whereas I used to be working with 3D Realms. That’s nothing unhealthy about them. It’s simply once you’re working for an organization moderately than working for your self, it turns into that.
From the begin to now has been like only a loopy studying course of. You do must stroll on landmines. You do must get blown up a few occasions till you determine what works and what doesn’t. Stepping out from 3D Realms after they mentioned, hey, we don’t have the money to pay you. It’s like, oh, okay, I suppose I’ll go determine this out now. After which hastily, DUSK, you recognize, like that’s actually the subsequent factor that and AMID EVIL had been the very subsequent issues that I labored on. It was loopy.
TA: Clearly you get a number of questions on recreation music, however what’s like, because you introduced up this complete factor about the way you’ve modified, what’s the largest false impression that individuals each within the trade and just like the gamers have about video video games music proper now?
AH: The largest false impression. Oh, that anyone can do it and it’s a small half. laughs It’s like, you’ll be able to’t simply throw something in there. Like, man, it’s I’d say that from a public like standpoint of I don’t play video games that a lot and I’m informal form of factor, a few of my buddies and a few of my household are like, you’ve the simplest job. I’m like, you don’t have any f***ing thought. You realize, stroll in my sneakers for a day and let’s speak once more. Yeah, it’s actually tough since you, you actually must trick your self into entering into no matter ambiance or no matter world another person has painted already. Proper. Like they’ve already constructed all the things out. That is their imaginative and prescient. You need to step into it and you need to step into it with respect to their design philosophies. And also you additionally must have the arrogance to say, nicely, that is what I believe we should always do and why we should always do it. And there’s a number of, there’s a number of social confidence that’s wanted to do a gig like this.
It’s advanced in a number of alternative ways. The artwork facet of it’s onerous sufficient, like pulling shit out of skinny air, is tough already, however then, um, explaining to individuals why you wish to go this course and typically even arguing to get that course is usually a problem in and of itself.
So yeah, I’d say the largest false impression is that it’s simple and that it’s not simple. I swear to God, so many occasions my buddies are like, ah, you’ve obtained the simplest job. I’m like, no, man, I dwell, I, I threw 100 pound bins from 6 AM to 4 PM. And typically I miss that.
Whiskey and low fueled half of the @RiseoftheTriad OST. Most songs had been composed between 9pm and 3am.
The extra you recognize
— Andrew Hulshult (@AndrewHulshult) September 30, 2015
TA: So I additionally wish to speak so much about your gear, however earlier than that, I believe we should always talk about a few of the recreation particular issues. So let’s begin with ROTT 2013. I’ve simply despatched you a tweet proper now, which I wished to reference. That is fairly an outdated one (linked above). Properly, I really didn’t know a lot about this soundtrack till not too long ago. I had heard about it and I had heard that a number of my buddies purchased that launch. They mentioned that it wasn’t that nice. I performed the unique on DOS however not the 2013 model, so I didn’t actually hear all of it in-game till the Ludicrous Version and when people made an enormous deal about it having Andrew Hulshult’s music. I made a decision I wished to correctly strive it then. I wished to speak about your thought course of between like, you recognize, redoing these tracks and arising with your individual flare on them, as a result of anybody who, no less than any fan of yours, in the event that they take heed to that, they realize it’s your music. It’s not like, oh, this is rather like him doing a canopy of another person. It nonetheless feels prefer it’s you.
AH: The firstly factor was to be sure you respect your elders. I wished to ensure that no matter I did clearly served the fanbase and by proxy served all the things that Lee Jackson had written. Lee Jackson and Bobby Prince, so far as I’m involved, that’s the de facto composers for FPS. The originators. You’re already entering into one thing nicely established again within the day. Individuals are very conversant in this. Should you f*** it up, you’re toast. That was my first skilled gig. Getting into that form of stress.
Simply actually what it got here to, it was all actually pure. I heard these songs and I noticed the sport and what they’re making and I’m like it’s kinda jank, however it’s enjoyable. It’s ridiculous. ROTT is so ridiculous. I used to be like man, I used to be speaking to Dave and Fred about it. What if we did like rock and metallic stuff predominantly? That’s the form of music I take heed to on a regular basis. They mentioned let’s strive it. Even Terry was like it is best to do it.
Actually they simply kinda gave me free reign to present it a strive on a few of these issues. The primary one I did as a demo to work on it was “Goin Down the Quick Manner” and I bear in mind I handed that to Terry. Terry is superior and he has been nice to me for my whole profession. By no means had a nasty piece of recommendation from him. He’s the CCO for Apogee by the way in which. I bear in mind handing him the very first demo of “Goin Down the Quick Manner”. His remark coming again to me was “It’s in the suitable course nevertheless it seems like a diarrhea of sound” As a result of it wasn’t blended accurately. I used to be simply excited handy him one thing. I used to be like okay that is a type of moments the place I’m going to must learn to settle for suggestions even when it isn’t from a musician and I do know that they imply nicely. I remixed a few issues and I believe that is what he was speaking about and I despatched it again to him and he mentioned it was approach higher and it was superior. Okay cool, this man doesn’t simply hate me.
It form of simply got here from the guts. All of the soundtracks I work on, it’s me. Even whether it is entering into another person’s sneakers, I’ve to keep in mind that the supply materials comes first, then you definately put your influences on. So the supply materials is the construction of the home however you’ll be able to put up no matter partitions you need and paint on it, and grasp and embellish, however simply ensure that the home continues to be the identical home that individuals bear in mind.
Now to deal with the Tweet above, Whiskey and low fueled half of the Rise of the Triad soundtrack. Most songs had been composed between 9 p.m. and three a.m. That’s true. Right here’s one little tidbit with it too. Terry Nagy, the man I used to be speaking about, the CCO from Apogee, he would frequently take me all the way down to a bar referred to as Hula Fingers. And he would purchase the drinks after which he would simply take me residence and be like, “Alright, now go write some extra songs.” It was superior. I miss these days.
TA: This jogs my memory of that one monitor in IDKFA the place you used a tremolo to copy a selected sound and it was the proper strategy to do it.
AH: That was Darkish Halls in DOOM. It has the tremolo guitar that’s alleged to be the rolling bass synth from that sound. I really like that music.
TA: After ROTT 2013, one other recreation I didn’t actually play till not too long ago was Bombshell and I actually solely purchased that recreation due to your soundtrack. I obtained it after I was researching boomer shooters for an article and was trying on the video games I don’t personal. I purchased it and didn’t actually look after a lot of it, however the music was nice. I form of consider that soundtrack with Nightmare Reaper the place they really feel like simply metallic albums from Andrew Hulshult moderately than devoted recreation soundtracks. Was this the purpose in your profession the place you realized you’re actually good at bringing metallic into these sorts of video games? It felt like a turning level.
AH: That’s that’s an awesome query too like really yeah like proper round that point I used to be experimenting so much with simply you recognize making massive atmospheric like synth stuff and like orchestral as you’ll be able to hear on that soundtrack should you obtained far sufficient, laughs, but additionally like for the for the larger fights and stuff, I actually wished to start out dialing up you recognize my very own sound and my very own writing and you recognize I’d already finished the duvet stuff I wished to wish to present individuals what what I may do and so yeah that’s form of actually the place my introduction to love my very own unique items began coming into place, so yeah that’s really proper. I by no means even considered that that’s the place that began and in addition like I imply I gosh that’s if I give it some thought, that was 2013 is the top of 2013 is when growth began on that, and it initially began as a Duke Nukem recreation earlier than the lawsuit, and I had an eight string by that point. I used to be tuning down massive time at that time, and there’s a number of stuff that by no means made it perhaps I’ll put that up on Twitter sooner or later however there’s a number of stuff that by no means by no means confirmed up on it as a result of it was just a little too aggressive you recognize however that stuff would later present up in DOOM you recognize. laughs
TA: When simply discovering your music a few years in the past, all the things was actually good metallic, and this was in all probability across the time I used to be primarily listening to metallic earlier than I began broadening my horizons. I went by way of this part after I was studying guitar and I began listening to extra Dream Theater after which obtained a seven string guitar, and ultimately obtained into Meshuggah. It obtained me excited about how after I take heed to your music now, you handle doing distinctive issues for every recreation and make the songs match the sport correctly. It isn’t simply metallic anymore so there’s no fear about being typecast. Did you’ve that concern that everybody is simply going to anticipate metallic from you once you’re behind a selected soundtrack?
AH: Oh man. You simply saying that simply out loud makes me wow. I nonetheless fear about that typically. There are moments the place I’m like am I getting typecast at this level, and also you saying, yeah I don’t have to fret about that anymore, I’m like oh thank god I heard it from another person the place they had been you recognize like, as a result of I don’t wish to be like I don’t wish to be like straight up referred to as metallic man you recognize like I really like metallic I really like enjoying it I’ll make these data all day lengthy as individuals so long as individuals will take heed to it and even when they received’t I’ll in all probability make them, however yeah I like to color with completely different brushes like particularly after I become older, like I actually take pleasure in mixing sound design with guitars.
I like mixing sound design with orchestral devices, I like simply going full hand on my Eurorack synth stuff over right here and simply getting misplaced. As a musician I’m lucky sufficient at this level the place I can simply experiment, and I do know I can discover, I’ve the arrogance now after engaged on all these video games and having some success with it the place I do know if I get misplaced I can discover a approach out as a result of I’ll discover one thing that I like, and likelihood is if I prefer it, I can in all probability present it to some individuals who will dig it as nicely. I’m so glad to listen to that you just’re like I do know that I can get some selection. laughs
TA: I imply if somebody simply heard DUSK and I’d say in the event that they heard DUSK even that’s fairly completely different. I imply if somebody’s not into metallic perhaps they assume nightfall sounds the identical as bombshell however you’ll be able to completely inform that DUSK was making an attempt to be like this center floor of what you want and 9 Inch Nails’ Quake. I believe it has certainly one of my favourite guitar tones in gaming proper now, and it’s nonetheless fairly timeless. I wish to transfer to AMID EVIL. I really like the soundtrack to the principle recreation, however I wish to ask in regards to the DLC for 2 causes. Now the very first thing is form of like a private matter as a result of I consider you had been going by way of a household emergency throughout the time once you had been recording the soundtrack, proper? After I was enjoying Dragon Quest VIII on the 3DS and my grandfather was within the hospital earlier than he handed away, each time I take into consideration Dragon Quest VIII now it jogs my memory of that. So do you undergo the identical factor with the AMID EVIL DLC music?
AH: I don’t assume I’ve been in a position to sit down and digest it that approach but. However I do know precisely what you’re speaking about and I’m certain that’s what I’ll completely undergo. Yeah, to harp again to what you’re speaking about, to what you’re referencing, my father had a coronary heart assault. And it was simply out of nowhere. And it was on, gosh, I believe it was on New Yr’s Eve. It was like 9 PM on New Yr’s Eve. It was the yr earlier than it was launched And I used to be midway, I used to be like halfway by way of engaged on that soundtrack. And it simply scared the shit out of me. As anyone would. Your father’s dying And he ended up having like a, all 4 valves round his coronary heart had been like 90-95% clogged. So yeah, he needed to have a quadruple bypass. And fortunately, Now we have a very, actually good coronary heart hospital proper subsequent to us. And so they’re at an age now the place they’re on Medicare. I believe it’s Medicare. I can’t bear in mind. It’s like when you’re previous 64 at a sure age on this nation, you will get on Medicare. And you recognize, like well being stuff isn’t as a lot of a nightmare because it usually is. However they obtained nice care, obtained taken care of. But it surely was months.
It took months for all that stuff to occur. And there’s like so many issues that occurred in between that. Like this was proper in the course of COVID. So like each time he obtained, it was proper in the course of the large Omicron spike for the world. In order quickly as he obtained admitted, he couldn’t get to an precise emergency room. He needed to sit in one other room for like two or three days and so they really needed to sedate him for a couple of days earlier than they might switch him to a different hospital to get checked out. Prefer it was simply loopy. And I used to be out of my thoughts. I used to be loopy at that time. And so as soon as they obtained to a degree the place they mentioned we’re going to do surgical procedure and he got here out of surgical procedure, I simply wanted one thing to occupy myself. In any other case, I used to be going to self-destruct.
So I began writing so much on the AMID EVIL stuff and began actually discovering that outdated like enjoying with a band and writing songs for you form of vibe moving into. And a number of that stuff in a AMID EVIL, the stuff that’s like obtained a number of power behind it, that’s fairly private for me. There’s a number of feelings on that soundtrack. There’s additionally one thing else that I haven’t talked about in public but and I’m not going to speak about it right here that I began engaged on that has a number of that as nicely. And that’ll nonetheless be some time earlier than that pops up. However I’d say that that was my predominant outlet for some time. You will have one thing to stay up for.
However yeah, like that soundtrack let’s wrap it up. That soundtrack did have a number of stress and a number of feelings tied to my father virtually passing away and me making an attempt to wrap my head round that. You’re proper. I hadn’t considered that.
TA: The opposite factor in regards to the AMID EVIL DLC is that this particular music I wish to contact on: Splitting Time. This music is attention-grabbing for a couple of causes. It jogs my memory of a few of my favourite recreation trailers just like the music used within the Nioh 2 launch trailer, I’m undecided should you’ve seen it. However extra attention-grabbing than that’s I used to be enjoying Avenue Fighter 6 with a good friend of mine and listening to this within the background and he requested me if I used to be listening to Killer Intuition music? I mentioned it was the AMID EVIL DLC and he wished to know who made it. It jogged my memory fairly a little bit of Mick Gordon’s non DOOM music. We spoke about Killer Intuition and my good friend mentioned “they need to get Andrew for a brand new Killer Intuition album” and I wished to ask if Killer Intuition influenced that music?
AH: No I didn’t really. However there could be little hints of that backwards and forwards as a result of gosh, there are moments after I went again to that Killer Intuition reboot as a result of I assumed Mick did such an awesome job on it. The place I’m like, man, the manufacturing right here is strictly what I’ve been making an attempt to do for like a handful of years, And like that soundtrack was simply actually inspiring to take heed to. I believe he’s simply, he’s an excellent composer.
TA: That’s one other recreation I purchased due to the soundtrack as a result of after I performed DOOM 2016, I used to be like I have to play extra video games with this man’s finished the music for and everybody was like Killer Intuition. I used to be like I’ve by no means heard this. I didn’t personal an N64. What the hell is that this recreation? I purchased it and preferred the music much more than the sport.
AH: That complete soundtrack slaps, man. He did a incredible job on that.
Whenever you understand @AndrewHulshult put his complete bussy into the Nightmare Reaper OST as a substitute of saving it for DUSK 2 pic.twitter.com/tU1AsySok0
— Dave @ House (@DaveOshry) October 11, 2023
TA: OK, so now let’s go to Nightmare Reaper a bit. I already talked about how this could possibly be your individual metallic album. I don’t even assume it must be associated to this recreation. And that is one other recreation I simply purchased as a result of the music was so good. And I used to be like there’s form of like this disconnect between what I anticipated within the recreation and after I heard the music, as a result of I heard the music earlier than enjoying the sport and I used to be like, OK, I have to get used to this. However so earlier than I ask you about your thought course of between doing the music, I wish to simply deliver up this different tweet (linked above) from New Blood’s Dave Oshry, which is attention-grabbing for Nightmare Reaper. After I noticed that Tweet, I knew I needed to deliver it up each time I interviewed you sooner or later and right here we’re.
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AH: At any time when Bruno reached out to me, Bruno is the developer of Nightmare Reaper. At any time when he reached out to me, we simply actually began speaking about a few of our favourite bands and we might simply go off backwards and forwards as a result of he confirmed me a recreation that he was making. I used to be like, “That appears cool.” I used to be like, “Properly, let me know should you’re ever .” After which we simply began speaking about music. He’s like, “Would you be fascinated with working with me on this?” And I mentioned, “Yeah, I believe that might be cool.” And he actually was like, “I simply need this to be like a metallic file from you.” I used to be like, “Actually?” He was like, “Yeah.” He’s like, “You’ve obtained good influences.” He’s like, “I simply need it to sound such as you simply made a straight metallic file.” I used to be like, “Properly, it may possibly’t be simply that.” I used to be like, “But it surely’ll be principally that.” You continue to want to love, we have to, it must nonetheless be for a recreation. As a result of in any other case you’d have me, you recognize, screaming over high of all the things as nicely.
However yeah, it’s fairly near one thing I’d have written at the moment. You realize, as you go together with a, as time strikes on, tastes change. And you recognize, however like at the moment, for certain, that’s what you’ll have gotten for a metallic file. I believe that’s fairly shut, yeah.
TA: How do you handle doing that and in addition protecting the soundtrack dynamic for a recreation then?
AH: Um, play by way of it a number of occasions the place you’ll be able to work out the place you’ll be able to have rests and lulls. And the place any individual’s gonna probably simply stroll round and search for issues. After which attempt to write one thing that you just your self wouldn’t become bored with. And that’s nonetheless attention-grabbing when it comes to like, you recognize, like an ambient monitor or like a low power monitor that also strikes just a little bit. Simply music to discover to, proper? After which attempt to make a chunk that enhances what that’s, however is tremendous excessive power or, uh, simply larger power for it. So like, in order that these two can work collectively. You actually have to consider it as like, you’re gluing two or three completely different items collectively. As a result of like Prodeus has like three items.
It has an ambient, it has a light-weight fight, and it has a heavy fight. And so they’re structured in triggers all through that recreation. So I’ve to consider how this ambient works with this low fight music after which work with this excessive fight music. Or this heavy fight music. And do all of them transfer nicely between one another, um, should you had been to only crossfade them at random occasions, you recognize? As a result of that’s what the engine goes to do. So yeah, it’s like, I don’t know, you simply, you gotta take a type of items of music, construct it out first, after which take into consideration the opposite piece.
TA: Because you introduced up Prodeus, that was the subsequent recreation I used to be going to ask about. I don’t even bear in mind what occurred with Prodeus when it launched on Steam, as a result of I bear in mind being despatched a code for it and simply tried it out for evaluate, however was blown away by the music. I bear in mind I even joked about that when I wrote about boomer shooters. On the time, it felt like all the things boomer shooters was all about New Blood, Nightdive, and Andrew Hulshult. So Prodeus seems like metallic, industrial, bass heavy, and punchier typically. It really works nicely with the aesthetic however I believe Cables and Chaos is my favourite. You’ve spoken so much about Prodeus, however I wished to know what your favourite monitor is from that and whether or not you may give us an attention-grabbing anecdote from composing which individuals won’t find out about?
AH: Cables and Chaos is certainly my favourite one. Like, for certain. Like, that was the second. Um, so, like, they initially solely wished me to work on, like, the music that first shipped. Not lots of people know that I went by way of, like, this complete nightmare the place I needed to pull your entire soundtrack down throughout your entire, like, all this digital distribution and put it again up with all of the songs as a result of initially there was solely, like, ten items of music with Prodeus. After which after they had been getting nearer to launch they had been like, “Hey, we wish to… we wish to… we would like, like, ten extra.” And I used to be like, “Oh, uh, okay. Properly, I’ve already put out the soundtrack.
We already agreed on this, so that is bizarre.” So, um, they confirmed me what else they had been engaged on when it comes to, like, the degrees and all the things that I hadn’t seen and I used to be like, “Good lord, these look unimaginable!” So I obtained actually impressed with that and made a ton of actually simply extra aggressive items of music which was issues like Chaoscaster, Cables and Chaos, uh…I’m simply making an attempt to consider the opposite ones. Dystopian Dimension.
That complete soundtrack is superior. Like, that complete soundtrack, like, it was inbuilt an attention-grabbing time the place it’s…it was… half of it was pre-pandemic and the opposite half was throughout isolation throughout pandemic. So, it’s obtained these actually attention-grabbing tangents of, uh, the second half of the file’s far more aggressive than the primary half. Simply because, like, I don’t know, I used to be at residence and I’m like, I can’t get something out. Like, when it comes to my outlet, I can’t exit. I can’t do that. So, like, all of my power was targeted on how aggressive can I make the remainder of this, you recognize? Like, after which we lastly get to place it out. I believe that was 2022.
Right here’s one factor from Prodeus that I assumed was tremendous neat. So, Spent Gasoline is among the solely occasions that I’ve been…Properly, it was one of many first occasions I’d finished it in the intervening time. The place I’d taken an thought and I used to be like, how do I write an idea round this? And actually, like, the map they confirmed me was simply, you recognize, inexperienced sludge and radiated bullshit all over the place. It regarded like Chernobyl. And, um…I used to be like, man, I actually wish to discover methods to take issues like Geiger counters, uh, and, uh, pulses from, from, uh, from fission reactions and, like, perhaps even the sound of the, uh, the flash that occurs within the video each time they’re testing the atomic bomb stuff. Like, something that’s gamma or uh, radiation that’s audible, I wish to take that and make a chunk of music with it. So, there actually are all of these issues in that piece of…that piece of music. So, there’s the sound of a nuclear reactor turning on, doing what’s referred to as a pulse, uh, for the primary time. And that’s really utilized in a part of the beat. The Geiger counters used as parts of the beat that form of seems like a drum machine just a little bit.
I reversed the sound of, uh, the atomic bomb, the preliminary flash hitting the digital camera, making this “bzzz” sound. I reversed that and made it pulse backwards and forwards by way of the beat. After which, you recognize, afterward the music is like a number of guitar stuff to go together with it and all the things, however all that stuff that’s occurring with the synthesizer is all primarily based round, you recognize, like radiation. And I used to be like, “Ah, that is cool!”
At any time when I obtained finished with it, I used to be like, “Lastly!” I had an thought, like an idea thought for a chunk of music that stems from like an actual life factor and put all of it collectively. In order that was like, that’s one of many standout moments for me on that soundtrack. I used to be actually happy with that.
TA: Are you able to say something in regards to the DLC music or is that simply as much as the devs for them to launch?
AH: Uh, that’s as much as the devs for them.
TA: Something that’s completely different or attention-grabbing or ought to we simply anticipate one other banger soundtrack?
AH: I’m undecided in the event that they’re going to make use of the bottom recreation stuff or if they need me to work on something new. I’ve my suspicions that they’ll give me a shout in all probability someplace within the close to future, however I haven’t heard from them but.
TA: I believe in a latest interview the place you spoke in regards to the Iron Lung soundtrack, which you’re doing, clearly you’ll be able to’t speak a lot about it, however I, don’t wish to know in regards to the soundtrack particularly, I’ll look ahead to the film to return out, however I wish to know three issues: How is it engaged on a film soundtrack? How is it working with Markiplier? How has the funds obtainable for the soundtrack modified the way you’re in a position to method music composition?
AH: So the primary one was, how’s it engaged on a film soundtrack? Fully completely different. Like, I assumed that, I assumed that I’d have the ability to stroll in and simply be like, “Eh, this received’t, this’ll be easy.” Oh. Like, it’s simply as difficult as the sport stuff, however in a totally completely different course. The place I’d know precisely to speak to a developer about “Let’s put a chunk of music right here, let’s put a chunk of music right here, let’s try this.” I can try this with Mark, however they’re fully completely different conversations. One is, you recognize, I do know precisely what’s alleged to be taking place within the recreation right here, that is, you recognize, you’re selecting up this weapon, otherwise you’re, this journey is going on in entrance of you, that is the tone. The opposite is a movie that I could get one thing out of, however Mark could also be intending for a unique emotion. So we now have to speak about these issues backwards and forwards earlier than I make a chunk of music. So it’s actually attention-grabbing. It’s a enjoyable problem, to be sincere with you.
The second was working with Mark? Mark is superior. He’s a lot enjoyable to work with. He hears issues that I don’t hear, uh, brings issues up in, in my very own music, the place I’m like, “Oh, I didn’t even take into consideration that.” And he’s very a lot, um, a musician with out, like, being a musician. Like, he doesn’t, he doesn’t write, like, so far as I do know, he doesn’t write a bunch of music, like, on the common, however he understands it very, very nicely. And can, uh, frequently make selections after I hand him a chunk of music, and he’s like, “Okay, that is, you recognize, typically we must lower these backwards and forwards, however I promise you, like, like, to make it work for a scene.” He’s like, “However I promise you, we’ll do it as finest as we are able to, or I’ll do it as finest as I can.” I’m like, “Uh, you recognize, like, perhaps I ought to simply recompose the scene.” And each time he cuts one thing to, like, probably make it, like, a tiny bit shorter, I’m like, “No, that’s precisely what I’d have finished. Like, how are you this good at modifying these things?” Like, it’s, it blows my thoughts. Um, so he’s been incredible to work with.
The third is in regards to the funds for the film soundtrack and the way it modifications the way it impacts composition? Budgets had been so much larger. I’ll simply, I’ll simply maintain it at that. They had been, they had been, they had been a lot larger. Um, simply due to how a lot, it wasn’t, like, as a consequence of, um, you recognize, like, “Oh, you’re engaged on a movie now.” It was, it was due to how a lot music we went by way of. Um, I wrote demos with them on the set. So, like, they flew me all the way down to Austin and Mark mentioned, “Hey, you recognize, why don’t you simply write music whereas I’m doing scenes?” I’m like, “Wow, that sounds really actually, actually f***ing cool, yeah.” So, I’d go down there about as soon as each two weeks and spend about two or three days there, simply sitting at, uh, sitting out entrance whereas they’re, they’re doing scenes, and I’d be writing music with my headphones, simply watching on a monitor, you recognize, what’s occurring in entrance of me, like, 50 toes in entrance of me. And so, there was a ton of music from that, and there’s much more music that got here afterwards that we wrote, and actually, um, I’m really about to leap on a name as a result of I believe they want yet one more, yet one more piece of music.
I’m gonna leap on a name in like two hours, ’trigger I believe they want yet one more piece of music. Um, nevertheless it’s, it’s simply been so much. There’s so much there. And it’s selecting the feelings that go the place. So, like, there could be, I wrote all these songs for, you recognize, um, catching a vibe of melancholy, and these songs for catching a vibe of anger, and these vibes for stress, and this, and this, and we now have this large palette to only select from and decide the place we would like issues to go, and that’s what, that’s what Mark’s been doing. So, yeah, it’s, it’s just about, I imply, financially, the very same factor as, that I’d agree on with video games, nevertheless it’s simply, there’s the amount that, like, we’ve finished with stuff is like, whoa, that’s so much! So, yeah.
So, yeah, it’s been nice. It’s helped me out a ton. I’d like to work with Mark once more after this.
TA: Going out of your first film soundtrack, let’s speak about your first chiptune album, which was Nightfall 82. So, was that really the primary time you probably did any type of chiptune remixing or composition or association, I ought to say?
AH: Yeah, the primary actual one, like, I imply, like, you possibly can, you possibly can argue that, like, the Rad Rodgers stuff has a few of that on there, however that’s, like, nearer to synth wave greater than anything, I really feel like. And, like, that form of retro really feel. So, yeah, this was the primary actual time that I, like, approached, like, a chiptune. Like, that is, you need to keep inside these boundaries of restricted expertise. And it was actually, like, you recognize, select your, select your sine wave. Would you like, you need sine, or select your audio wave. Would you like sine, sq., or, you recognize, triangle? So, it’s one of many three. Simply constructing, like, drum kits primarily based off of that and, like, white noise and all the things. And, yeah, that was, that was attention-grabbing.
Like, when David approached me about that, I used to be like, “You wanna do what?” You realize, like, fully make, like, the Nightfall soundtrack and chiptunes of, like, why don’t we simply, like, select a handful of, like, the hits and go from there. Like, those that individuals bear in mind essentially the most, you recognize? And that was enjoyable. Uh, that was tremendous cool. Simply bouncing these backwards and forwards off Dave and David. However, yeah, that was, that was the primary time I ever did that. And it was, it was fairly cool. I’m glad individuals prefer it.
TA: I believe, uh, Nightfall 82 was, like, this free pre-order bonus with the Nintendo Change launch. So after I began enjoying that, I used to be like, “Wait, did they really do that for the soundtrack?” After which I regarded it up and I’m like, “After all they did!” I do know clearly you’re, like, tremendous busy with, like, a ton of tasks, however should you had, like, limitless time and sources, would you do a chiptune demake of any of your different albums? And should you would, which one would you decide?
AH: Gosh. Which one could be essentially the most attention-grabbing is basically the, uh, the query there. I believe the one that might be essentially the most attention-grabbing if I had been to do this could be in all probability AMID EVIL. As a result of there’s a lot occurring in a few of these, it might be, it might be a number of enjoyable to return and, like, hear a few of these melodies which might be, like, on, like, all string sections and stuff, and right here I’m taking all the way in which all the way down to, like, 8-bit, you recognize? I believe that that might match rather well too. However yeah, if cash wasn’t a problem. Yeah, and time. Time’s the largest one there.
TA: Talking of money and time, I used to be going to ask you about remastering certainly one of your outdated soundtracks, like bringing it to the fashionable Andrew Hulshult sound. You talked about that you just’d do ROTT 2013 in the event that they paid you to remaster it.
AH: There’s a ton of labor concerned in that. Doing that only for IDKFA was a ton of labor. Like, that was months of getting that collectively. Um, yeah, I’d love to do this for ROTT if Apogee could be fascinated with it, however, like, it’s a time factor greater than anything. I believe it’s a time factor for them, and it’s a time factor for me. I imply, they’re actually down the road, so, like, they’ll open up that dialog anytime they need, and it’s only a matter of when, you recognize? When’s the suitable time.
TA: WRATH: Aeon of Spoil, I believe is a recreation you composed a very long time in the past, no less than in gaming, like, a couple of years in the past, and it lastly launched this yr. That’s a soundtrack the place if anybody hears it, I believe they in all probability wouldn’t anticipate it to be you after they take heed to the soundtrack, and that’s one of many issues I really like about it, as a result of right here, like, he does extra than simply metallic, like, you might want to get that into your head, like, that seems like a type of issues. How was it engaged on that soundtrack?
AH: It was attention-grabbing backwards and forwards. Jeremiah, the developer on that, the unique developer, at first, I believe he’ll be okay with me saying this, at first we didn’t, we didn’t see eye to eye on issues, as a result of I wished straight up, like, virtually no guitar in any respect, Quake, Like, that is what you’re going for, that is the viewers, we have to harp even additional into this, and he wished some guitar blended in there, and like, we’d butt heads backwards and forwards on it fairly a bit, till we lastly got here to love a mutual understanding, and I began listening to him out just a little bit extra, and he began listening to me out, and I used to be like, okay, okay, I believe we’re all good on this.
However yeah, it was, that one was just a little, just a little extra powerful, simply because the, like, the event cycle was, wasn’t, you recognize, as individuals know, like, didn’t, it didn’t go as nice, like, in direction of about midway by way of, perhaps just a little, even just a little sooner than that, and I may see a few of that taking place in actual time, simply because I do know all these guys, so like, it was unavoidable.
In order that’s, that’s onerous to make artwork for when you recognize that the product itself is having some issues. However I believe Christalynne Pyle did a great job with wrapping all the things up in direction of the top of it, which was a job in and of itself, for certain. However, I don’t know, there have been some bizarre concepts pitched on the market at one level, the place like, I believe Fred wished like, like straight up, like actually excessive metallic tracks at one level. I believe they even had a trailer at one level the place I used to be like, this isn’t the tone of this recreation. I don’t know the place you guys discovered that music, however like, that is, this isn’t that.
However I’m glad that all the things in the long run was in a position to have some cohesiveness and, and meld collectively. I actually want that we had time to do some motion tracks, like, for that recreation. Like, I really feel like there are moments the place that would have, that would have been useful, but additionally on the similar time, that’s an enormous what if. You realize, like, as a result of there’s two issues that you need to take into accounts. Which is, that’s the Quake engine. It’s just like the OG Quake engine. You realize, what are the restrictions that we’re working with right here? Can we dynamically swap music, and is it going to work nicely, simply in addition to you’ve heard in different titles? And quantity two, um, would that take individuals out of it?
As a result of all people remembers just like the OG Quake having like, you recognize, each map had its music. Properly, I say that. It was a disc working that simply performed a bunch of music. However mainly, each map had a music for it. So, yeah, there’s, there’s a handful of issues there. However I just like the soundtrack. I believe it’s cool. I believe it’s, it’s, it’s obtained some actually attention-grabbing moments in it the place like, certainly one of them the place I used to be, I simply mentioned, “F*** it, no matter. We’re gonna, we’re gonna bow a guitar by way of a bunch of pedals and see what that comes out like.” That’s certainly one of my favourite items from that. I believe that’s in direction of the top. However, um, yeah, it was just a little little bit of a battle, however I’m glad I nonetheless went by way of it. I had enjoyable, and I believe that everyone that labored on it was fairly happy with it by the top.
TA: Now, DOOM Everlasting’s DLC. How did it really feel for you doing IDKFA and now doing official DOOM music? Like, it’s your soundtrack with David Levy? Did id Software program really speak to you about IDKFA beforehand?
AH: I do know that IDKFA was, was handed round that studio an entire bunch, trigger I, I’d get, um, DMs from people who work there that at the moment are, like, I think about nice buddies, the place they’d attain out in, like, 2015, and 2016, and, like, all the way in which again as 2014, the place they’d be saying, you recognize, hey, I’m working at id proper now, I simply need you to know that I’m listening to your, to your music whereas I work, and I used to be all the time identical to, oh, holy cow, that’s loopy, you recognize? Um, and I, you recognize, way back to that, I used to be identical to, hey, should you ever, you recognize, should you ever, should you ever want music, let me know, you recognize? So, however, like, by no means, by no means, you recognize, like, pushing like, the button or the boundaries, trigger like, I believe it was introduced that Mick was engaged on there in, like, 2015? Like, it was just like the yr earlier than, or one thing like that, after they actually began exhibiting a few of the music, and I used to be like, oh, they’ve, they’ve, they’ve obtained that dealt with, okay, cool. So, um, however I used to be all the time fascinated with, to find a, a strategy to work with that studio, trigger I really like DOOM, and, like, it’s actually is, like, the core of my DNA desirous to work in video games, is DOOM, and like, Duke 3D, um, so, yeah,
I all the time wished to work with them, and IDKFA, I kinda checked out virtually as a resume, like, I used to be like, I’m gonna put this on the market, if it will get standard sufficient, it’ll converse for itself, and it did precisely that, as a result of, uh, in, gosh, that was, that was proper at, like, quarter one, quarter two of 2020, when, after they approached me, I believe it was, really it was, I believe it was quarter two of 2020, and mentioned, hey, we, uh, we’re ready the place we’d like, we’d like music, the place we’d like music, and, uh, we’d like it rapidly, and would you be as much as the duty for this? They absolutely had been, they knew what they had been asking was, was a tall order, in a brief time period, and so they mentioned, you recognize, we are able to completely use the bottom recreation stuff, however we wished to no less than attain out and, and ask you, as a result of we, we really feel like we are able to belief you, trigger I, I’d made relationships with, with, uh, with Marty, some gentle ones with Hugo, with Chad Mossholder, their sound man, I knew all of these individuals by then, and, um, I used to be like, hey, you recognize what, it’s, it’s like 35 or 40 days, f*** it, we, let’s do it, it was like, this seems like a problem, I’m completely up for it, and, you recognize, I needed to maintain my composure your entire time, however within the inside I’m like, oh my god, you recognize, like, I’m engaged on an official DOOM recreation, uh, and when, however once we obtained finished with that, like, I don’t know, it’s a type of bizarre moments the place you go, holy cow, we went from, uh, you recognize, a mod undertaking, uh, all the way in which to the official factor, and it’s simply, it’s insane, it’s, it’s loopy, I maintain working into these parts of my profession, I hope they by no means cease, there are, one thing all the time surprises me like that.
TA: I believe it’s protected to imagine that lots of people who let you know they love your music deliver up Blood Swamps from DOOM Everlasting’s DLC. As a result of I believe each individual I see on YouTube is like, everybody’s simply doing Blood Swamps, it looks like the preferred factor and all, and for you that’s in all probability a bizarre feeling as a result of you’ve this music which lots of people love or one thing which you’re actually happy with, however you’ll be able to’t stream it or purchase it legally. Are you able to touch upon that in any kind? What do you inform individuals who ask about shopping for your music from DOOM Everlasting’s DLC?
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AH: Properly, Bethesda and id personal all that stuff, they paid me nicely for it, so like I used to be completely satisfied to do all that, um, that’s not like a bullshit PR factor, like, for actual, they took care of me. They personal all that, so you recognize, in the event that they, in the event that they ever select to place that stuff out, that might be superior, I’d completely embrace it and get behind it with that, however typically studios try this, typically they don’t, and it’s simply fully as much as their name, however I’ll let you know that they haven’t any downside with you, you recognize, grabbing it off YouTube or something like that, so try this to your coronary heart’s content material, throw it in your cellphone, no matter you wish to do, they simply, they’re simply glad that you just just like the stuff, and so am I, to be sincere, however hey, hopefully someday we are able to get an official launch, like, that might be cool.
TA: Yeah, as a result of I’ve the DOOM 2016 vinyl soundtrack, and I’d like to have DOOM Everlasting music on vinyl as nicely. Anyway that’s one thing I’ve been excited about as a result of it’s in all probability a tough scenario so that you can be in, as a result of individuals would who wish to help you, like, clearly they’ll purchase DOOM Everlasting and purchase the DLC and stuff like that, nevertheless it’s an unlucky scenario for followers, is all, like, I’ll go away it at that.
AH: It’s probably not like a bizarre scenario in any respect. I’m completely okay with no matter, Bethesda and id wish to do with that, as a result of they had been fully up entrance, they’re like, we’re gonna personal this, what we select to do with that’s…Yeah, yeah, and I used to be like, yeah, that’s superb, I simply wish to assist, I wish to make like, a cool DLC for everyone that’s caught at residence, and I wish to write like, some kick-ass music for it. And, so there’s no emotions of like, you recognize, oh, that is bizarre as a result of this isn’t out, or something like that.
I do know persons are gonna rip it out of the sport, I do know, like, so do they, and like, that’s superb. However, you recognize, hopefully, I wish to see an official launch someday, however that’s fully as much as them, and I’ll respect no matter they wish to do, as a result of they’ve been nothing however superior.
TA: Now let’s simply speak about Blood Swamps for a bit, as a result of like, everybody loves the riffs and stuff like that, so, what was your thought course of in creating that music? Did they ask you to make one thing that match with the bottom recreation or let you know to only go wild and be Andrew with the music?
AH: They informed me to go wild and simply be me, which I used to be like, that felt fairly harmful to me, as a result of I used to be like, man, the, you recognize, what’s established right here from Mick? I’m like, that’s fairly sturdy. Like, that’d be like any individual strolling into one other DUSK soundtrack, you recognize, like, for the Indie Shooter, after which being like, we’re gonna do all synthwave, you recognize, like, no, that’s not how that works. You need to serve what got here earlier than you. You need to present respect to what got here earlier than you. And that’s actually necessary for the followers earlier than anyone else. Doesn’t matter with an government producer, doesn’t matter with the musician, doesn’t matter with the artist. It’s for the followers. Like, you need to ensure that no matter you’re going to do goes to, they’re gonna go, okay, cool, yeah, I perceive, you recognize, why you selected this. So actually, for me, taking a look at it after they had been like, hey, you simply be you, do no matter you need, what you assume serves Doom the most effective. I used to be like, nicely, that’s a no brainer. I’m gonna, I’m gonna, you recognize, I’m gonna supply some inspiration from 2016 and Everlasting, after which write what I’d wish to write.
So, the colours that I’m portray with are acquainted, however the writing that I’m utilizing, what I’m utilizing to color, or the image I’m portray is completely different. So there’s some familiarity there. As a result of, you recognize, like, Blood Swamps is kind of a bit completely different than stuff that you’d hear on 2016 or Everlasting. It’s just a little bit extra, that is, uh, that is like virtually like a conventional metallic music. And like, in reality, uh, I bear in mind handing that over to Chad the primary time and him being like, “Oh, metallic. Alright.” And I used to be like, “Actually? That’s like, you’re shocked. However, um, the, uh, it’s just a bit bit extra virtually conventional. However, um, yeah, there’s, like, it was good having David and Chad to bounce stuff off of. As a result of the place I’d hand them one thing, like Blood Swamps was initially like simply guitar, simply, simply bass, and simply drums. And it began, I began including issues in at, uh, after speaking to, um, to Chad and David fairly a bit. The place they’d be like, you recognize, “Have you considered any sound design stuff?” I’m like, “Properly, what did you, you recognize, what are you considering? Present me the devices that you just’re working with and, you recognize, like, let’s simply speak stuff out.”
We’d have like hour lengthy conversations each single day. And we’d all simply study from one another. It was, it was so cool. However, yeah, like Blood Swamps comes from some extent, I simply bear in mind, I’ve to jot down one thing that if that is the one DOOM recreation I work on, it needs to be simply, like, approach on the market. Like, I’ve to, I’ve to, I’ve to only take my shot. And it has, I’ve to tear out all the obstacles which might be like, “Hey, ought to I do that? Shouldn’t I do that? Who provides a f***?” Simply, simply simply write the quickest, most aggressive factor that you can imagine at this time limit, and we’ll go from there. And that’s what, that’s what Blood Swamps was. After which all the things else got here after it, I used to be like, “Okay.” It was like, “We will do various things now.” You realize?
TA: I believe you talked about the way you had a couple of weeks to do the DLC soundtrack, however since you had the help system of these two, it was all potential in the long run. I believe you talked about that in one of many different interviews.
AH: Yeah, as a result of David was dealing with, like, on the primary DLC, he was dealing with the cutscene work, and he had his personal, like, stuff the place he was engaged on a boss, and a stage, after which I obtained these two ranges, in order that they cut up up the work evenly between us on each DLCs. And there’d be so many occasions the place I’d name David or Chad and simply be like, “Hey, how are you doing right now?” You realize? And certainly one of us could be like, “Oh my God, I don’t know the place to go.” You realize? And we’d simply speak backwards and forwards, and in some way we’d give one another concepts. It was magical. Like, it was loopy. Simply after speaking to David, if I had nothing in my head on what I ought to write, after speaking to David or to Chad, I’d be like, “I do know what I have to do now.” It was cool.
TA: Going again to IDKFA a bit, you talked about how a lot work you needed to put into revisit and, like, Remaster the unique soundtrack. What did you concentrate on revisiting these songs? Like, did you’re feeling like, you recognize, perhaps I ought to have finished one thing in another way? Or had been you want, “No, I’m pleased with this. I simply wish to protect it for followers of IDKFA.”
AH: Yeah, it was extra of a, it was just a little tiny little bit of, “I wish to do issues just a little in another way.” However, like, I’m speaking to actually, actually small levels. It was extra about preservation than anything. And if one thing was being harmful whereas making an attempt to protect it, these had been the issues that I’d attempt to remove. An instance of that’s there was a number of compression on the unique IDKFA. Simply because I used to be nonetheless in my early 20s at that time, early to mid 20s at that time, mixing in an house that isn’t, like, acoustically sound or something like that. So I’m making combine selections that aren’t the best, however nonetheless maintain up. Like, that album nonetheless sounds nice, however simply a few of the compression facet, like, on the grasp of it, is just a little aggressive.
So after I went again this time round, I really went by way of each single a type of songs one after the other and simply gave it just a little bit extra head room, just a little bit extra respiratory room, in order that should you take heed to it sufficient occasions, you’re not going to get, like, ear fatigue or one thing like that. That’s actually what I used to be involved about. And that’s all the Doom 1 stuff from the unique IDKFA all obtained that remedy the place the edge has been raised just a bit bit in order that it sounds just a little bit extra open and pure. And I changed a pair snares right here and there, and perhaps like a kick drum and a bass, however they’re so small I nonetheless haven’t seen anyone discover them.
TA: You must revisit Metallica’s St. Anger and do that for all of the followers.
AH: It’s not possible to repair that! laughs There’s been bands which have finished that. I’ve re-recorded that whole file and I see it on YouTube every so often. I’m like that is… this could have been a cool file if it might have sounded okay, and perhaps some construction modifications had been completely different, however yeah, it’s no matter.
TA: I believe when Metallica did Loss of life Magnetic, they’d the Guitar Hero Metallica stems which individuals used to combine it higher than the precise album. How does this maintain taking place?
AH: James attests to it. These guys are so massive that they legitimately have last say on all the things that they do. So each time they’re touring and you have already got Tinnitus and also you’re mixing in a tent, I bear in mind them speaking about “Yeah, no shit, the guitars are vibrant.” I used to be listening to mixes in a tent and making combine selections on the street. I’m like, “Oh, that makes much more sense now.” Like, oh my god. As a result of the Guitar Hero mixes do sound approach higher.
TA: This jogs my memory of after I watched Deafheaven and the way wonderful they sounded dwell. You will have so many bands that launch albums with brickwall mastering ruining the sound of an in any other case good album. It’s a disgrace that some bands don’t get outdoors assist for issues like mastering.
AH: Yeah, it’s…I imply I nonetheless do my very own mastering stuff so I’m the beginning and end with all my stuff however I completely get it each time I see a band that has a file that’s simply fully smashed. I’m like, “Yeah.” If I used to be only a musician who actually knew methods to play guitar and that’s about it or actually knew methods to play drums and that’s about it, I perceive how this occurs. It’s only a bunch of men within the room going, “Louder! This must be louder.” laughs
TA: So that you revisited IDKFA’s unique DOOM 1 music, however you additionally did virtually a whole Doom II soundtrack. I believe there was one monitor which was on YouTube or two tracks. Whenever you had been doing these new songs, how did it really feel for you as a result of now you’ve come to this point forward as a musician and did you’re feeling tempted to make it a contemporary Andrew Hulshult album versus making an attempt to be Doom II? How did you method that?
AH: Man. This complete IDKFA factor with id’s blessing has been an unimaginable expertise. It seems like I’m closing a chapter of my profession with the followers as a result of IDKFA is what obtained me so many roles and a lot recognition beforehand. Properly, IDKFA and Rise of the Triad, however IDKFA was an enormous one and I nonetheless get individuals which might be like devs that attain out which might be like, “I do know you from the DOOM stuff.” And I’m like, “What? DOOM Everlasting?” They’re like, “No, IDKFA. I performed that DOOM WAD.” And I’m like, “Oh my god.” So I nonetheless get jobs due to that. So each time I sat down… At any time when Marty Stratton despatched me an electronic mail a few yr and a half in the past to ask if I had time to sit down down at QuakeCon final yr and speak about some issues, I used to be like, “Uh oh. One thing’s both gone terribly mistaken or he simply needs to hang around.”
So we sat down and he was like, “Hey.” He’s like, “I’ve an thought.” And I used to be like, “What’s that?” He’s like, “What if we provide you with a license for the DOOM soundtrack for IDKFA so that you could put that out on all the streaming platforms your self and do no matter you need and also you give us a license to do with what we’re engaged on, which was the DOOM and DOOM II remasters.” And I used to be like, “That sounds cool.” I used to be like, “I’d like to lastly get that out on official websites and all the things.” And he was like, “Oh, it’s superior.” He’s like, “I hoped you’d say that as a result of this could simply be so cool to have this as a selectable factor. Wish to go from the Bobby Prince to this if individuals wished to.” And I used to be like, “Yeah.” And I’ve been doing that with soundtracks not too long ago in any case.
About midway by way of that complete factor, we had been simply buying and selling warfare tales in regards to the trade and simply getting alongside. And I used to be having a blast. I used to be considering, “Man, that is actually going to be closing a chapter in my profession.” I used to be getting just a little emotional. I used to be like, “I’ll let you know what.” I used to be like, “I’ll do you one higher.” I used to be like, “Why don’t we end DOOM II and make it the true deal?” Individuals have requested for it endlessly. I’m like, “That may actually poke my viewers.” They’d be like, “Holy shit! Doom 2 is lastly completed!” And he was like, “Should you’re up for it, yeah, completely.” He’s like, “We’ll get you a license for something that you just do on that as nicely so that you could put that out as nicely.”
So, yeah. It was…strolling into doing DOOM II was a lot enjoyable. Each step of the way in which. Adam Pyle, the man that labored with me on Quake Champions, was the man that I bounced all my mixes off of. He informed me in the beginning, he mentioned, “Hey, you recognize, do no matter you need.” He’s like, “It’s you. It’s the rationale individuals wish to take heed to it, so I don’t actually have a lot of a say.” I used to be like, “Bullshit!” I used to be like, “You labored with me on Quake Champions. I’m going to bounce each combine that I do off of you, and I wish to hear suggestions from you.” It’s like, “I respect your opinion as a result of we obtained stuff like we did on Quake Champions as a result of we talked backwards and forwards.” So we did. I’d ship him… I’d end Working from Evil and ship it to him, and he’d go, “This sounds nice, or, you recognize, like, what should you did this?” It was solely a pair occasions the place he was like, “What should you did this?” I used to be like, “Oh!” They had been all the time cool concepts. However I actually respect Adam’s capability to throw out issues every so often. He’s only a nice individual to bounce mixes off of. So, simply doing these one after one other and attending to the top of it.
As soon as it was all wrapped up, I’m not going to lie, as soon as it was all collectively, I used to be simply in my workplace and I used to be like, “Oh my god!” Having a second the place I had a grown man cry the place I used to be like, “I can’t consider that that is taking place. I can’t consider that, primary, I’m going to be a part of the unique DOOM in an official capability. Quantity two, they’re going to ask me to speak at QuakeCon, like, dwell on stage and announce all the things. And quantity three, they gave me a license for all these things in order that I can put it out and I can really make some cash off of it. That doesn’t occur with an enormous studio. They don’t simply go, “Right here’s the soundtrack. Have enjoyable.”
I don’t know. It’s simply nonetheless so loopy. It hasn’t actually sunk in for me nonetheless. I’m nonetheless in that bizarre spot the place I’m like, “Yeah, that is on the market. We’re selling it.” And as soon as that’s over, I’m certain I’ll be like, “Oh my god.” You realize, like, “Holy cow.” But it surely’s been enjoyable.
The DOOM II stuff, I wished it to be one thing just a little bit extra contemporary on the place I’m at as an artist. I didn’t need it to be precisely like IDKFA, like the unique DOOM I stuff. As a result of if I had been to do this, I’d have to return and fully remix all of DOOM I stuff, which I used to be like, “No, that needs to be preserved. Individuals know what that’s.” So you’ll be able to’t contact that. That’s already finished. So I assumed, “Okay, nicely what if I simply gave them how I’d do DOOM II proper now?” Which is strictly what it’s. All that stuff is like, “Yeah, f*** yeah.” These are the precise selections that I’d make with synths, with guitars, with drums. I believe all the things slams. I believe it sounds nice. So it’s only a image from 2011, 2012 with the unique IDKFA. It obtained formally launched in 2016, nevertheless it began engaged on it way back to again. So it’s an image of the place I used to be as a musician, that far again. After which this one is an image of 2024. So that you get it’s form of like a time capsule.
TA: Was The Healer Stalks one of many new songs as a result of it positively seems like trendy Andrew Hulshult?
AH: Yeah, that was the second written. I believe I virtually went in chronological order doing that whole soundtrack.
TA: You and I’ve each been enjoying DOOM because the 90s. After I began studying guitar and enjoying so much, I began excited about the DOOM soundtrack and a few of the songs positively have bits that remind me of different band music like Pantera. Whenever you did IDKFA and simply heard the music typically, what did you consider that and the way does it really feel revisiting a few of these songs now? Stuff like A New Stage and This Love from Pantera immediately spring to thoughts.
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AH: Yeah. A few of that stuff’s fairly shut. Like typically, proper? But it surely’s completely different sufficient the place you’re like, oh, okay. Yeah. However yeah, there’s positively some inspirations that had been taken from like thrash metallic for certain. As a result of I imply, like they all the time talked about Romero having on like Slayer and Metallica and all that stuff like enjoying whereas they had been making the sport. So it solely is smart that they’re like, you recognize, hey, make one thing related round this. I don’t know precisely how that story went. I wasn’t there. I used to be like, you recognize, I used to be like 4. However that makes full sense in my head. And yeah, going again and listening to them like, yeah, it’s there someplace within the ballpark of it for certain. Like
TA: So after DOOM II, have you ever gotten individuals saying, when are we getting an IDKFA model of Quake and stuff? Since you did one music, proper?
AH: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did the theme. I believe I did that only for enjoyable. And I believe I actually did that as individuals had been, I noticed a bunch of discussion board posts. It was both discussion board posts or Discord about individuals undecided like about me on DUSK of all issues. Prefer it wasn’t even like a totally introduced recreation, however they had been like, “I’m undecided Andrew”. And I used to be like, OK, you recognize what? I used to be like, f*** you. I’ll simply remake the Quake theme. And then you definately’ll see if I’m the suitable individual for the f***ing job. laughs And so I put that out and other people had been like, oh, and I bear in mind like a bunch of the feedback had been like, oh yeah, okay, he can work on DUSK.
TA: Do you take heed to that soundtrack typically? The unique Quake?
AH: Oh, man. I don’t take heed to it. Take heed to it. However like each time I’m going fireplace up Quake, which is about like as soon as twice a yr. A little bit greater than that if I’m enjoying multiplayer with buddies. That’s the factor I stay up for essentially the most moreover like the extent design is the soundtrack simply because it’s so on the market. Reznor did such a great job on that. It’s unimaginable. God, I want it’s a pipe dream, however I’d like to work with him on one thing and Atticus Ross on one thing sooner or later. That may be loopy. However they’re like approach up there, you recognize.
TA: Their film soundtracks are wonderful. I’ve really been watching a few of the films simply because they’ve finished the music as a result of I believe the audio design in The Social Community is unimaginable. I believe they did just like the latest Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles factor, which I nonetheless want to look at.
AH: It’s so cool when artists step out of their consolation zone like that, the place it’s such as you’re recognized for such as you’re indignant and miserable music after which it’s like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. It’s like now I’m . Yeah.
TA: Going again to your music, we coated Blood Swamps being the preferred music which individuals deliver up after they meet you and stuff. I noticed this interview with Last Fantasy 14’s composer Masayoshi Soken who was requested a few music which he actually preferred, however nobody really brings up, and that he thinks deserves extra consideration. He mentioned Sport Idea. I wish to know what’s that for Andrew Hulshult.
AH: Splitting Time. Like everytime you introduced that up, I used to be like, oh yeah, from the AMID EVIL DLC. I imply prefer it’s nicely it’s DLC. So like by nature, DLC doesn’t get as a lot consideration, you recognize. However just like the AMID EVIL DLC altogether earlier than I speak in regards to the music, the DLC is unimaginable. Like that’s my that’s certainly one of my favourite issues I’ve labored on like in latest reminiscence. Like all of the music’s nice. Prefer it was , it was a pleasure to place all of it collectively. All of the sound design, all of the traps and all the things. It’s simply an unimaginable DLC. Should you don’t have it, it is best to go get it. That’s not me shilling and simply oh go purchase the sport. Prefer it’s f***ing superior. They did an unimaginable job.
TA: Everybody can buy that recreation and DLC.
AH: Properly, I don’t wish to appear like a shill. Should you prefer it, you prefer it. Like should you don’t, should you don’t dig it, don’t purchase it. You realize we’re not not right here to love, you recognize attempt to promote a bunch of stuff.
However like splitting time ending up that piece of music. It felt like an actual second the place I don’t know. I felt like form of a shift as an artist the place I used to be. I used to be far more comfy with a number of the extra aggressive sound design parts being blended in with compositions and discovering methods to make them gel higher. And all the things actually got here collectively on that monitor and out each time midway by way of I used to be like, that is the ultimate boss monitor. I used to be like I don’t care what you’re designing. I’m like, that is the ultimate boss monitor. And you recognize, two seconds after they began listening to it, they’re like, oh yeah, that is the ultimate boss monitor. We hadn’t even made the character but. I used to be identical to, right here it’s. That one hung round for a very long time. And yeah, that’s I really feel like that music may be very a lot a great indicator of the place I’m musically proper now.
TA: Now let’s get a bit into the weeds. Let’s speak about your present guitar setup, your pedals, your amps, string gauge, pickups, I wish to know no matter you’re utilizing.
AH: So the guitar I’m utilizing essentially the most is a Caparison Dellinger 7. I really simply had a pickup swap on it the place I put some Seymour Duncans. I believe I put an SH5 within the bridge and an SH2 within the neck on this one. Particularly as a result of the SH5 on it has a very attention-grabbing factor the place it doesn’t emphasize the low mids an entire bunch however they nonetheless lower by way of rather well. So everytime you’re sitting there and like, you recognize, like chugging on stuff and you need to monitor that 4 occasions, it simply sits so much higher within the combine than should you had been to only use like inventory pickups. There’s nothing mistaken with Caparison inventory pickups. They’re nice. They’re tremendous, tremendous punchy. However for my mixing fashion I simply, I do know what I would like when it comes to pickups so I simply, I swap these out.
I additionally did the identical factor really final week with the 8 string. This can be a Caparison Brocken 8 string. I don’t assume they make this anymore. I swapped out the pickups on this one as nicely to a gosh, what’s it? It’s Duncan. They’re actually, actually well-known 8 string pickups by Duncan. And I can’t bear in mind what they’re referred to as now.
TA: I didn’t know Seymour Duncan even had 8 string pickups.
AH: They do 8 and like, I used to be initially going to get some Fishman Fluences for it as a result of they appear like they’d maintain the highest finish within the midrange just a little bit higher however after I don’t know, I’ve simply all the time been a Seymour Duncan man. And after discovering a pair that I actually preferred at a store referred to as Tone Store up the road from me. I used to be like, man, I actually wish to put these in my 8 string and so they have a tech there that’s simply unimaginable at what he does with all my guitars. So I used to be identical to, hey, order these and I’ll simply go away the guitar with you and like every week later they got here again and I used to be like, yeah, that’s precisely what I wished, sounds unimaginable.
I’ve obtained my Caparison 7 and eight, and I nonetheless have all of the guitars that I’ve had through the years for essentially the most half. I’ve obtained one other Schecter 8 string right here that could be a actually cool coloration. It’s tremendous neat, like, it really modifications from blue to purple.
TA: I believe it’s referred to as Prism or one thing like that. John Petrucci has one thing like that on certainly one of his guitars.
AH: However yeah, this one has just like the EMGs in it and it’s a cool guitar. It nonetheless performs nice. Like, I nonetheless prefer it. However let me present you one thing that’s really fairly candy. So I nonetheless have, I purchased this in like 2004. And I nonetheless have it. That is the guitar that I really wrote all of IDKFA or most of it on and I wrote all of, I tracked all of Rides of the Triad with. It’s only a Schecter C6. It’s like simply inventory. It even nonetheless has the plastic within the again which is loopy. However yeah, that is like, I nonetheless have this guitar. I used to be like I used to be so near going as much as id, like which is simply on the road for me and being like after IDKFA was completed, I virtually was identical to, right here, you guys, you want this. You realize, like, maintain on to this or one thing. Like that is the one. However like, I don’t know. It’s not like a mainline DOOM recreation, you recognize? Like, it needs to be one thing like a mainline recreation the place I’d be like, I wrote this on this guitar right here. You realize, in order for you this, it feels prefer it belongs to you. And in addition, a part of me is like, no, don’t try this. Like, grasp on to it.
TA: Okay now string gauges.
AH: For string gauges, 10 to 59 on 7 strings. And on 8 strings, I believe it’s 10 to 65. After which sometimes on 6 strings, I identical to 10 to 46.
TA: Do you employ D’Addario strings? I exploit them principally.
AH: I exploit D’Addario for essentially the most half, however I bounce backwards and forwards typically to Ernie Ball.
TA: What about your amp setup and your pedals and stuff like that?
AH: So amps, I’ve bought virtually each amp I’ve ever owned. I had a JC-120. I had a few these Crate Blue Voodoos approach again within the day. Those that had been like, yeah, those that had been, had been mainly copies of these Ampeg tube amps that they made a very long time in the past. I had a Valve State 8100. I had a bunch of amps and a bunch of VHT cupboards as nicely too. And I bought all of them years in the past. I’ve actually simply been like working contained in the field for essentially the most half with like neural DSP plugins into an RME interface and I additionally went so far as getting certainly one of these not too long ago, which is a Neural DSP Quad Cortex. So mainly that is all of their plugins constructed into like a very nice processor. However for a undertaking I’m engaged on not too long ago they had been like, hey you want an amp. And I used to be like, yeah, you’re in all probability proper. I do want an amp. So I went and acquired this and I plug it into two 100 watt Seymour Duncan energy levels. Okay.
They’re like, they’re these little tiny like 100 watt energy amplifiers. They’re stable state energy amplifiers. And I run the stereo out from that factor into the left and proper facet of these and people go into two Engel 2×12 cupboards. Which, okay, Engel 2×12 cupboards are superior. Ever since I heard a Rammstein file that used them I all the time wished to seize one as a result of I used to be like, god, these issues sound large.
TA: I wasn’t certain about this as a result of a good friend of mine mentioned he was certain AMID EVIL was recorded on an Axe FX Extremely.
AH: Any guitar stuff I’ve finished has used both Native Devices Guitar Rig from approach again within the day. Like IDKFA used a ton of Native Devices Guitar Rig 5 and Guitar Rig 4. However just about all the things since DUSK has used Neural DSP for guitar work. It’s simply me plugging immediately into my RME UFX and typically I’ll use pedals going into it just like the Unique BB Preamp however more often than not it’s only a dry DI sign getting manipulated contained in the field.
So, those that obtained essentially the most use on DUSK had been the Moogerfooger low move filter. Consider it or not, like anytime you hear the sound of one thing changing into form of lo-fi or something. It was all the time run by way of this filter. It was fairly cool. However the factor I like about it essentially the most is the drive circuit on it. Like I don’t even prefer it that a lot as like a filter filter. The drive part on it’s simply so aggressive that it’s a very attention-grabbing sound and like that sound that you just hear on the DUSK soundtrack which is like all the actually excessive excessive finish that’s like actually excessive power. It’s virtually just like the 9 Inch Nails stuff. A ton of that comes simply from driving the entrance finish of this factor. And similar approach with the Fulltone Catalyst. However yeah, it’s just some of them. I believe there’s yet one more that I exploit so much. I don’t assume I’ve it right here. It’s the ZVEX Fuzz Manufacturing unit which is simply an insane sounding pedal. It simply seems like rubbish. And that’s why I prefer it. It simply seems like you’re destroying a sign which is ideal. I’m cool. That sounds cool. That’s an awesome impact. I like that.
TA: You’ve achieved so much in your profession to this point with recognizable music. As a musician, how have you ever been studying to enhance your individual abilities like programming drums, software program, and the way do you steadiness doing that whilst you have a number of people who wish to work with you on new tasks?
AH: Day by day is rather like I don’t know. Should you’re not educating your self one thing on daily basis, that is my prepare of thought. If I’m not making an attempt to sound higher in my very own head, no matter I believe is healthier, I’m losing my time. So if I really feel just like the drum equipment I’ve used like two or thrice on two to 3 completely different data, if I’m like that feels stale. If I then go if it feels stale and I do know the ends and outs of it and methods to make it sound good then I would like to alter that drum equipment. I would like to search out one thing completely different and work with it and see if I can get some completely different sounds out of it. So I’ll change devices and simply purposefully put myself in positions the place I don’t know the place I’m at or what sounds good with it simply in order that I can discover my approach out of it.
It’s form of like limiting your self, like placing your self in a field that’s actually necessary as an artist to just be sure you are working inside a sure scope of issues and going hey, you recognize, right here’s one thing that’s fully unfamiliar, get used to it and that is what you need to work with. So, yeah, like I don’t know, simply consistently difficult myself is a part of who I’m for essentially the most half. So, it’s simply the way it all the time goes.
TA: I’m glad you introduced that particular bit up as a result of in one other interview of yours you talked about how as soon as you bought to your thirties an important factor grew to become getting good sleep which lots of people take with no consideration of their twenties. So my query is that making an attempt to have a routine is essential even should you can’t persist with it 100%. What does a day in your life appear like proper now?
AH: A day proper now appears to be like like about, a typical day is about anyplace between 6 to 7 hours of sleep which is about what I would like I’ve discovered, prefer it’s like someplace round there, typically 8 after which randomly I’ll have days the place it’s like, oh you want like 11 hours I don’t know why, however I really feel superb waking up fully recharged with like 6 and a half to 7 and a half hours of sleep. So what I’ll do each morning is I’ll get up, I’ll go take a bathe instantly, like that’s the one approach I can begin my day is like I really feel like I’ve obtained to it seems like I’m washing off yesterday I don’t understand how else to clarify that after which I gotta have a espresso after which I gotta begin writing issues on a whiteboard that’s proper over beside me to the left as a result of in any other case I’m simply gonna spin my wheels all day lengthy and assume, oh I ought to do that, I ought to try this, I’ll be excited about all the things I have to do after which by no means really do something. I don’t know if that’s ADD, ADHD or no matter that’s undiagnosed, I’m certain it’s to some extent which I’ll get to that sooner or later however till then I’ve the whiteboard and so long as I write stuff down on it on what I wish to try this day, I’ll knock all of it out, each single piece of it. However what’s tremendous necessary for me to do is simply plan out the day early on after which all the things simply involves it afterwards.
The opposite factor that’s form of new for me too is round like 4 o’clock sometimes I’ll now attempt to do, this has been inside the final 3.5 months, I’ll attempt to do about 20 to half-hour of cardio. Simply because I really feel like for some purpose elevating my coronary heart price actually takes me from hey I may focus earlier than to now I’m tremendous laser targeted and might get by way of no matter I have to and it additionally places me in a significantly better temper if I’m having a shit day.
TA: You’ve beforehand talked about that you just love enjoying Cities Skylines. Did you play Cities Skylines 2?
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AH: Yeah, however you recognize like I haven’t gone again to it but. I have to strive it once more sooner or later. However oh boy prefer it wanted some extra time within the oven each time I attempted it. Like no offense to them. I used to be identical to wow.
TA: I imply you in all probability tried it on like your correct gaming PC. I identical to to play Steam video games on a Steam Deck and I may get it at 5 fps or one thing after a little bit of enjoying.
AH: Even with the 3080 I believe I used to be at factors I used to be sitting there at like 35 frames a second. I’m like actually? With the 3080? That is the place we’re at huh? Okay.
TA: Do you continue to play Hunt: Showdown and did you strive the brand new Hunt: Showdown 1896 replace?
AH: Yeah. That they had some actually attention-grabbing selections with their UI that they simply pushed with this one which lots of people aren’t in favor of. I’m getting just a little extra used to it as time goes on. However man there are some issues they should hammer out with it. However yeah I nonetheless play that like a pair occasions every week with my buddies in New Blood. Like with Dylan who’s engaged on Gloomwood. I’ll play it with David every so often. I’ll play it with Mason who’s the developer on Religion. Like we’re all, identical to all of us simply hang around. We’re all simply buddies. So Leon, me and Leon play it I believe essentially the most. Leon’s the lead on AMID EVIL. However yeah like New Zealand and America enjoying a web based fps recreation is a wild factor however we now have a good time doing it.
TA: Earlier than we wrap up, I wish to know your favourite bands and artists proper now out and in of video video games.
AH: I’m fairly boring on this one to be sincere with you. I have to department out just a little extra. Favourite bands outdoors of video video games proper now like for certain and so they’ve sat there for some time is Gojira. I actually like their mixing. I like how tight they’re dwell. I like their selections on composition. I don’t really feel like they write a nasty music. I may throw out the plain ones. Metallica is one other one simply because James Hetfield’s proper hand is like what impressed me to play guitar. Like how briskly you are able to do these issues is loopy.
Exterior of or in video video games I’d nonetheless say I nonetheless assume and it’s going to be a bizarre selection since you’re like nicely you write all this aggressive music. What’s Jesper Kyd? That man is rather like nice on all the things he touches and all the things he touches is all the time distinctive. However I all the time return to his early stuff just like the Hitman franchise as a result of it’s simply so unusual and prefer it actually fits these early video games rather well. Should you take heed to it outdoors of it, it seems like a very bizarre chilly form of soundtrack. Even from the very first recreation which has a number of attention-grabbing issues like virtually drum and bass selections. It nonetheless seems like a chilly entrance.
You realize, like a Hitman. And I all the time simply discover that stuff fascinating. How he was in a position to take so many alternative genres of music between all these video games and nonetheless make them match accurately for that character. So yeah and I believe he labored on the Darktide stuff extra not too long ago which I would like to present a take heed to. All people’s informed me that’s unimaginable however I don’t know I used to be knee deep in like 4 energetic developments each time that recreation got here out. So I simply haven’t given it an opportunity.
TA: Hypothetical scenario, should you had no time or funds constraints, should you may compose for any single recreation and any single film which might you decide?
AH: So let’s see for any recreation if it had the suitable course I’d actually wish to take a shot at like a Duke recreation. As a result of I really feel like that’s an IP that could possibly be introduced again if it’s introduced again in the suitable approach. And you need to assume that’s actually going to be dictated by whoever the artistic manufacturing is on the time. So if it was finished in the suitable approach I’d like to step into that.
Both that or I’m going to throw one other one out to you. I’d like to work on Minecraft. Similar to relax you recognize. Like simply make one thing that’s fully chill. So these are fully two reverse sides of the spectrum.
However so far as a film, man, that’s an awesome query. Let me give it some thought for only a second. Man on Hearth. Like I really like Denzel Washington’s work as primary: as an motion hero I believe he’s nice. However quantity two each time he is ready to have sufficient time to place drama into issues. And like both I don’t understand how else to clarify it aside from he does a f***ing loopy incredible job.
Both Man on Hearth or American Gangster. A type of two soundtracks I believe I may do could be nice to work on. As a result of there’s so many alternative feelings between each of these movies. It’s an enormous curler coaster that doesn’t go up and down as soon as. It goes up and down and does like a loop. And like you recognize, it takes you facet to facet. Like each of these movies do that actually nicely.
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TA: You will have a number of bands you’ve been listening to for a very long time like Metallica. What are your ideas on their latest or new albums?
AH: I can discover issues I like on just like the data that they put out as a result of like I’m a die onerous. Even with this final Megadeth file. I may nonetheless discover stuff that I like I can chew on. No downside. Completely. However you recognize these guys aren’t going to jot down like one other Grasp of Puppets. That comes round as soon as in a lifetime. You realize what I imply? And so they struck it 4 occasions. Like with Kill ‘Em All, Journey the Lightning, Grasp of Puppets and …And Justice for All. So wish to even simply get that’s loopy. However I do discover issues that I like on all their newer stuff. Like I believe What was the 2016 file that they’d? Hardwired to Self Destruct. Yeah I believe that that really had some actual moments of actually actually good writing on it.
Particularly the final monitor. I felt like Hardwired was an awesome monitor. However I additionally thought Moth into the Flame was written tremendous nicely. There’s a handful of simply actually actually actually good writing on that file. On 72 Seasons, there’s nonetheless a handful that I actually like. However they don’t sync as a lot for me. And I’m undecided if it’s as a result of I’m in search of one thing quicker or not. Which that’s simply not the place they’re at in the intervening time. That’s not what they’re writing. And that’s okay. I’ll say the final monitor on that file I really feel like is ideal. It’s so good. I can’t bear in mind what it’s referred to as off the highest of my head in the intervening time. I’m horrible with music names typically. It’s loopy. It’s like 11 minutes and it seems like a 5 minute and 30 second music. I bear in mind listening to it the primary time. I used to be like gosh. There’s a lot emotion thrown into this music that it’s only a pleasure to take heed to. I find it irresistible after I can inform that somebody actually dumped all their feelings onto one thing. That’s when it actually strikes a chord for me.
However yeah even the final stuff from Slayer, there’s issues that I can discover that I take pleasure in. however I do know I’m not going to get the revolutionary file that we had rising up. That’s okay. I’m simply glad they’re nonetheless making music. And it’s nonetheless fairly sick.
TA: What’s essentially the most random piece of music memorabilia that you just’ve held onto for a very long time?
AH: I had a good friend that I labored with a very long time in the past who fell on onerous occasions at one level and he was buddies and and like labored with Pantera for a very long time. And he was like man he’s like I’m making an attempt to eliminate these things I’m like why don’t you simply maintain on to it and like like right here’s right here’s you recognize right here’s some money should you want some money to get by. He’s like no no no he’s such as you maintain on to it simply pay me for it. I used to be like okay so I’ve obtained this vinyl of the Nice Southern Trendkill that’s one of many unique vinyl releases, however I even have a plaque that got here prefer it was given to certainly one of their both their sound or their lighting crew at one level and it’s like for the tour in Japan for the Nice Southern Trendkill that very same time. And I used to be like the place did you get this you recognize like what the hell. And he’s like yeah we simply you recognize had him and I knew the man and he had like 5 – 6 of them that they gave him by chance so he gave me one. I used to be like oh okay all proper. So I’ve each of these issues in my closet they’ve frolicked with me for like gosh I wish to say 15 16 17 years now however these outdated ones won’t ever go away.
Some individuals maintain costly booze in a decanter. Teah and I maintain hand-crafted chilly brew espresso. pic.twitter.com/7DJlgWcjaB
— Andrew Hulshult (@AndrewHulshult) October 10, 2020
TA: Okay for my final query, how do you want your espresso? I often ask this on the finish, however I bear in mind an outdated Tweet of yours (linked above) made me much more interested by your reply.
AH: Yeah man I just like the chilly brew stuff. I beloved scorching espresso endlessly however like chilly brew I don’t know the longer I’m going the simpler it’s to only sit on a desk and sip on. I don’t must be like that’s scorching. I can simply be like no we’re simply getting all the caffeine if I wish to. So chilly brew espresso. Chilly brew black.
I’d wish to thank Andrew Hulshult for his time and assist with this interview over the previous few weeks.
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